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Quick guide: Gemstone talismans and breakthrough talismans [Copy URL]

Bloody Shadow

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Post time 2017-3-29 12:10:21 |Show all posts
As most players probably already know, you can use gemstone talismans and breakthrough talismans respectively to upgrade your gemstones on gear beyond level 6.
The amount of talismans you need to use per upgrade are as follows:

1 gemstone talisman for lvl 6 -> 7
2 gemstone talismans for lvl 7 -> 8


3 gemstone talismans for lvl 8 -> 9


2 breakthrough talismans for lvl 9 -> 10


4 breakthrough talismans for lvl 10 -> 11


6 breakthrough talismans for lvl 11 -> 12


8 breakthrough talismans for lvl 12 -> 13


10 breakthrough talismans for lvl 13 -> 14


12 breakthrough talismans for lvl 14 -> 15




considering the fact that 1 breakthrough talisman can be made in blacksmith with 5 gemstone talismans, this becomes:



1 gemstone talisman for lvl 6 -> 7
2 gemstone talismans for lvl 7 -> 8


3 gemstone talismans for lvl 8 -> 9


10 gemstone talismans for lvl 9 -> 10


20 gemstone talismans for lvl 10 -> 11


30 gemstone talismans for lvl 11 -> 12


40 gemstone talismans for lvl 12 -> 13


50 gemstone talismans for lvl 13 -> 14


60 gemstone talismans for lvl 14 -> 15





breakthrough will only be available for the lowest level gemstone that's level 6 or higher on a certain gear, so you will always use the least amount possible for breakthrough.
this got me curious, so i started doing some maths on how much BP you get per used gemstone talisman.


after doing the math, i can say that the most beneficial use of gemstone talismans and breakthrough talismans is to upgrade gems in this order:


1. all gems from 6 to 7 (1600 BP per used GST)


2. all gems from 7 to 9 (1200 BP per used GST)*


3. all gems from 9 to 10 (760 BP per used GST)


4. all gems from 10 to 11 (400 BP per used GST)


5. all gems from 11 to 12 (346.67 BP per used GST)


6. all gems from 12 to 13 (330 BP per used GST)


7. all gems from 13 to 14 (320 BP per used GST)


8. all gems from 14 to 15 (316.67 BP per used GST)


note: this is assuming you have 100% enchant gemstone bonus, otherwise the BP gained per GST used is [50 + (enchant gemstones used*5)]% of the BP i'm showing here

to make the difference extra clear, i'll now compare upgrading the gains and costs of upgrading 5 gemstones from lvl 6 to 15 with the gains of using that amount of gemstone talismans in the most beneficial way like i just showed


upgrading a single gemstone from level 6 to level 15 will cost you a total of 216 gemstone talismans, and give you a total of 81800 BP
hence, upgrading 5 gemstone from level 6 to level 15 will cost you a total of
1080 gemstone talismans, and give you a total of 409000 BP




however, upgrading gemstones equally leveled, there will be 1008 gemstone talismans left after upgrading them all to lvl 7, granting a total of 115200 BP


after upgrading them all to lvl 9, there will be 648 gemstone talismans left and there will have been an additional gain of 432000 BP


upgrading gemstones to level 10 will leave you with 8 gemstone talismans left, and 8 gemstones that are still level 9, but there will have been a gain of 48640 BP


this means that the total BP gain is 595840 BP, and even upgrading all gemstones from level 7 to 9 gives you more BP than upgrading 5 gemstones from level 6 to 15, while only costing 33.33% of the gemstone talismans.



i hope this guide was helpful to any of those who went through the trouble of reading it

*: this is because of an inconsistency: lvl 7 to 8 gives 1000 BP per used GST, while lvl 8 to 9 gives 1333.33 BP per used GST



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Post time 2017-3-29 16:32:14 |Show all posts
21,600,000 gemstone essance  to get 1080 talismen....

if u get 1000 gemstone essence per day that will only take 216000 day  or 591 years

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Post time 2017-3-29 17:29:11 |Show all posts
WarlicKeg replied at 2017-3-29 16:32
21,600,000 gemstone essance  to get 1080 talismen....

if u get 1000 gemstone essence per day that w ...



omg never with other words

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Bloody Shadow

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Post time 2017-3-30 01:29:20 |Show all posts
WarlicKeg replied at 2017-3-29 23:32
21,600,000 gemstone essance  to get 1080 talismen....

if u get 1000 gemstone essence per day that w ...

i can use lower amounts as well if you want, but it was just as an example anyways.

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Post time 2017-3-30 09:25:44 |Show all posts
u can if u want ...u only used talisman and when u say 1080 seems like oh ya i can get that ina year or 2 but nope lol.......so i was just kinda showing ppl y they can give away 200 talisman .....lol

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Post time 2017-3-31 06:16:51 |Show all posts
it's better if they give us 100 gemstone talisman if we complete a whole month sign-in. whatdyathink?

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Post time 2017-3-31 07:29:23 |Show all posts
ker0811 replied at 2017-3-31 06:16
it's better if they give us 100 gemstone talisman if we complete a whole month sign-in. whatdyathink ...

just 3-5 talisman for full month log in is fine for me and 10 extra diamonds

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Post time 2017-4-5 00:05:19 |Show all posts
Omgee this is getting harder aND harder

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Post time 2018-3-29 19:33:31 |Show all posts
but how many gemstone essences will you need to get a full set of gear from 5-6 ? then 6-8 ? can someone add that up? and the bp gain? for me please.

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